Inside Modeling, Mentorship, And Marriage to a Bachelorette With Adam Woolard

What if the thread that ties your life together isn’t a job title, but a commitment to grow—on purpose, for others? That’s the question that guides our conversation with Adam Woolard, whose journey runs from small‑town sports and piano recitals to finance, national modeling campaigns, and a mission-driven role coaching men’s health.

We start with the early pivots: a hip surgery that ended college soccer plans, a quick exit from pre‑med, and the draw of community banking where service mattered. When the bank culture shifted, Adam followed curiosity into acting classes and then into modeling, where he learned how to navigate blunt rejection and keep identity anchored in something deeper than a shoot list. He opens the doors on the industry’s realities and shares how entering later—with more self-knowledge—made the difference between being defined by looks and using the platform to learn.

The heartbeat of Adam’s story is service. A decade mentoring through Big Brothers Big Sisters and budget coaching with Habitat for Humanity reshaped how he thinks about leadership and impact. He and his wife, Hannah Brown from ABC's "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette", now lead a marriage group at church and build their relationship on principles from The Meaning of Marriage: covenant, friendship, and daily acts of service. Adam talks honestly about life alongside a very public partner, setting boundaries around social media, and why singular focus helped Hannah win high-pressure shows like Dancing With The Stars and Special Forces.

We close by diving into Adam’s work with Joy & Blokes, a telehealth company that starts with comprehensive labs and builds personalized plans around hormones, peptides, and targeted supplements. His coaching lens is refreshingly practical: structure and discipline over hacks, sleep and nutrition before shortcuts, and progress tracked on a calendar, not a feed. If you’re torn between th

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Chapters

• 0:57 Meet Adam Woolard
• 1:36 Tulsa Roots And Competitive Childhood
• 3:25 From Pre‑Med To Banking
• 5:00 Banking Culture Shift And Exit
• 6:25 Modeling Realities Behind The Glamour
• 9:30 Mentorship With Big Brothers Big Sisters
• 12:54 Habitat Budget Coaching And Impact
• 15:16 Leadership And Church Community
• 16:54 Marriage Growth And Tim Keller Insights
• 17:38 Meeting Hannah And Public Life
• 20:05 Risk, Focus, And Winning Under Pressure
• 23:12 Fame, Boundaries, And Social Media
• 25:13 Serving Together And Community Rhythm
• 27:00 Health Coaching: Structure And Discipline
• 29:18 Joy & Blokes: Labs And Telehealth
• 30:27 The Thread: Consistent Growth
• 32:36 Choosing Safe Versus Authentic Paths
• 33:39 Where To Find Adam And Closing

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:38

Welcome back to one with Mr. U, of course. I'm your host, Mr. U in Studio Willis, Entrepreneur, Health Coach, model. You might know him for a different reason as well. Adam Woolers in the house with us this morning. How you how you doing, Doug? I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me. Same here, man. Good to have you here, man. We had an awesome conversation for our free interview. A lot to get into. So trust me to guide you in this, man. We got a lot to ask you about. So we'll get it all out here in the streets. Sounds great. Sounds great. Thank you for agreeing to do this, man. I really appreciate it. Uh you are you really said you are a perfect fit fit for our show. And I think that's speaking bottom about who you are. So I want to get into it. So talking about Adam's childhood, what was life like in Tulsa? Talk to me about that a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23

Childhood was great. You know, I I had a really good upbringing. I had um parents who who really cared. I had I grew up with two brothers, so there was a lot of um a lot of fights, a lot of rough housing, a lot of competition. Um we all played um similar sports. You know, I played baseball and soccer uh growing up primarily. We also um all did piano for anywhere from five to eight years growing up. Um so there was a lot going on. You know, my mom was basically a taxi service uh growing up. So it was it was constant movement, a lot of competition, um, but a really good upbringing in Tulsa. We lived in the suburbs, so um, you know, it was it was a great, you know, safe upbringing. I was pretty ready to get out and spread my wings a little bit after high school, um, but couldn't couldn't be happier for for my my early childhood.

SPEAKER_00: 2:17

So talk to me about the uh the transition A, because this is something a little similar to my life. I'm not from the surface, so to speak. I'm from Brook Brooklyn, New York, so it's a whole different environment, different situation. But I grew up wanting to play baseball, I wanted to be a New York Yankee. That was my plan in life. My mom wasn't having that. She's from uh she's from the uh Virgin Islands, so her mindset is totally different. And I had the she was encouraging me. I used encouraging finger quotes, because that's exactly what it was like. It was an encouragement, right? To go into administration finance. You did that. I think you went to the uh University of Arkansas. Why did you go into baseball when you went into admin and finance instead? What kind of drew you to that path? Was it your mom pushing that, or was this a mindset for you? What was that?

SPEAKER_01: 3:06

So I I I knew so I got hurt in high school. So, you know, soccer was kind of off the table. I really wanted to, you know, play in college at a certain point, but then I got hurt, had surgery on my hip. So I I shifted directions. Um, but you know, I actually started in pre-med in college. So I went to the University of Arkansas, started pre-med, I got into all the sciences and was just like, wow, this is just not for me. So I made a pivot and I um went the the business route. So I've always been pretty good with numbers, you know. Math was a strong point for me in in high school growing up, and um, you know, finance was just something that um I was kind of interested in. So I pivoted and went went the uh business direction. And then right out of uh of college, I got into banking. So yeah, it was more so, you know, I wasn't good enough at at the sciences, uh which kind of um made me change direction and and get into into business. And it it turned out to be great, you know. I'm I'm definitely a uh more of a people person, and sales is something that comes pretty natural to me. So you know getting into banking sales was was kind of a godsend after after shifting direction in college.

SPEAKER_00: 4:23

Okay. So it sounds like you were uh pretty cool with the shift and that's where you wanted to be. Talk what was life like in the banking industry? Because I know you can't do some something else after that, but tell me why you you didn't stay there for a longer period of time than you already did.

SPEAKER_01: 4:39

So how was that like? Yeah, so I I landed at a a really great bank here in Nashville, Tennessee. It was called Avenue Bank at the time, and um it was a smaller community bank, and they really focused on um customer service. They it was more of a um kind of concierge type of of service. So it was a lot of one-on-one interaction with with our clients. Um, they were bought out. Um, so Avenue Bank was bought out by a bigger uh regional bank called uh called uh Pinnacle, and things started to change, and I didn't really like that change. And I had already come to the realization that like maybe banking is not um, you know, a 10-year, 20-year um uh goal for me. So I I had already started shifting to more uh more interest in acting um and and started with uh classes, acting classes, and I got an agent in Nashville and all that kind of stuff. So that had started before the bank got bought out. Um so I I got to a point in my life where I was like, man, I want to do something that I'm really passionate about, something different. Um, I feel like banking got a little bit stale for me. Banking is a great career. Um, a lot of people are in it who are passionate about it, but for me, it started to, you know, get a little bit stale toward the end. So that's when I got into acting and I started doing acting classes, and I started um, you know, really pursuing that. Um modeling actually took off way quicker than acting. So I kind of you know followed that that line and um ended up signing with had six agencies at one point, one in Dallas, one in Miami, one in New York, one in LA, one in Atlanta. Um, so modeling really took off, and that's kind of what took me around the country. I moved to Dallas for a year, I was in Chicago for a year, and then I eventually made my way out to California.

SPEAKER_00: 6:36

Okay. I want you to just it shouldn't be hard for you, but it could be a tough question. Help kind of demystify the modeling world for us because I know the people who are following our show, who watch and listen, and they might see it as glamorous. But I mean, look, if you watch TV, that's what you see. You look at the magazine, you see that the glamour is part of it. Take us behind the scenes a little bit of what the modern life is like. You're talking about being all across the country, basically, sign all the different companies. What was the pressure like, the obligation, what you see behind the scenes that made you like it or not like it? You missed the fire force if you can, please.

SPEAKER_01: 7:16

Sure. So I I had a great experience with modeling. You know, it was um there there are parts of it that feel very um you know, vapid and you know, uh superficial. And you know, you're essentially judged by the way you look, and and that can feel a little bit superficial at times. Um, but you know, someone coming into it, I mean, I was 26, 27 years old. So I had I had a little bit more time to kind of understand who I was. Um, you know, I had you know a little bit better of a foundation in terms of confidence. Um, whereas, you know, a lot of people getting into modeling, they're 15, 16, 17. So it was a different experience for me. But I can imagine going into it without that foundation of confidence, how difficult it could be. Because you're you're literally you you walk up, you're in a lineup with with five other people who look very similar to you. They're picking you apart, they're saying we don't like this about you. And then, you know, it's it's pretty doggy dog. You know, if you don't fit the profile of what they're looking for, they're not going to cast you. And it's it's not like this, oh, thank you so much for coming, typically. It's more like, okay, next, you know. So it is it is very um challenging, you know, just depending on the market, depending on where you are in terms of your um your personal development and your confidence. Um, and I went into it uh in a pretty confident state. So I think it was a little bit easier for me.

SPEAKER_00: 8:41

No, that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. I want to get into some of your service work, your volunteer work. I when I first met you, I found that part most appealing. I know that people say, Oh, he's modeling, acting, doing banking, finance guy. He's doing all traveling around the world. But the volunteer part that touches my heart a lot. Talk to me about uh big brothers and big sisters in uh in Middle Tennessee. It's something you've been doing with sustainable housing and helping families. Talk to us about that a little bit. Share your heart on that.

SPEAKER_01: 9:11

Avenue Bank really established my desire for helping the community. Community service was something that they really, really encouraged in that first job at Avenue Bank. And I'm so grateful for that. Um, because I've always had a lot of empathy for other people. I've always, you know, seen the value of mentorship. I've seen the value of um giving back. And as a Christian, I I, you know, really value um helping other people who are who are not you know as well off as you are. And I feel like it's our duty as human beings to lift each other up. Um so I was at Big Brothers, Big Sisters, I was uh the big um to a 13-year-old named Savion. And I did that for about 10 years before I moved to California. And you know, it started as this kind of lunch buddies program where I'd come in and just have lunch with him. He didn't have a father figure in his life, and um, he was one of four children, and um he was kind of seen as the the adult in the in the household, which was so hard to see. Um, but regardless of his circumstances, he always showed up with the the biggest smile on his face. Um he was so eager to to learn and to try new things, and you know, we would go to uh the park and play basketball, we would go to lunch, we would go get a smoothie. Um, so I did that for about 10 years, and and you know, we always talk about the mentorship process and and how you know the the younger person, the mentee, is is gaining so much wisdom and knowledge and and uh support, but the reverse mentoring process was profound. I I got more from that relationship than I think he did. And I'm so grateful for that. I was uh I was a board intern on Big Brothers, Big Sisters board uh for about a year. And yeah, just hearing some of those stories and the transformations of of those kids was absolutely incredible. Um, but I was also on the the homeowner homeowner selection committee at uh Habitat for Humanity of Greater Nashville and got to work with um a lot of the families as a budget coach. So I would help them budget and prepare to become home homeowners for the first time for our program. And um that was equally as rewarding as as Big Brothers, Big Sisters.

SPEAKER_00: 11:36

I love that, man. I'm big in the mentorship. We didn't get a chance to discuss that in our pre-interview, but uh it's part of my life in ministry, mentorship uh coaching is just part of my life. Tell me how that process ended, because uh in a mentorship, sometimes our parameters had to be set up uh beforehand. Sometimes it's gonna be me, maybe three months, maybe six months, maybe it's gonna be a number of years. For some people, they mentor until the person that don't want to be mentored anymore. It could be a lifetime relationship. You mentioned 10 years with Savion. Tell me how that ended. How do you feel about how it ended, the impact you took away, how does how was Saveon doing? Talk a little bit about that if you don't mind sharing that, if you can.

SPEAKER_01: 12:18

So, so when I say ended, it essentially it lasted for 10 years. And then um I moved to California. Uh, but we kept in touch. You know, I still have his phone number, I still check in, check in on him time to time. You know, he he reached a you know his teenage years and late teens. And um he I think he's at a point to where he wants to be a little bit more independent, and I'm I'm you know perfectly fine with that. I actually um love that for him, but I'll check in on him, you know, every now and then. And you know, the conversation's a little bit more sparse now just because I think he's becoming his own man and you know wants to do things his own way. So um definitely hasn't ended, but we we're kind of transitioning into um less of a you know hands-on, you know, everyday kind of check-in uh type of situation.

SPEAKER_00: 13:07

Makes sense. So today, post Savion, post the uh big brothers and uh big sisters, talk to me about who you are to mentor today. Do you still enjoy that? Have you have you evolved in the whole whole idea of you yourself yourself being a mentor? Are you pulling away from it a little bit? What's your feelings on it?

SPEAKER_01: 13:27

So I I am always open to mentor. Um, you know, I'm I'm coming into a period of my life where leadership is a really big aspect of my life. And you know, I I um I serve at the church. I also lead a marriage group uh among peers uh through my church. And we we uh basically we're my wife and I are conducting it based on the book um Meaning of Marriage by Tim Keller. So that has been um a really, really fun aspect of leadership in this stage of my life. Uh mentorship, you know, it's it's probably more indirect than direct mentorship at this point, but um not around a whole lot of you know young people, but I think indirectly I'm leading a group at church, and that feels uh you know more like a mentorship, mentorship situation for me. Makes a lot of sense, man.

SPEAKER_00: 14:16

A lot of sense. So a lot of diverse stuff going on in your life. You've done a lot of different things. You probably probably probably considered a renaissance man. I should have announced you that way as a renaissance man.

SPEAKER_01: 14:25

I try to be, you know, I'm I'm very curious. You know, I I feel like you know, I have a lot of hobbies. Um, sometimes that is to my detriment because you know, I'm kind of a master of none, but you know, I'm pretty good at most things. I've I've tried I've tried pretty much everything in terms of you know exercise, sports, and you know, those kind of hobbies. Um, I'm really trying to hone in on career and and try to um you know make sure I'm I'm not just like mediocre at at what I'm doing in terms of helping people with their their health and wellness.

SPEAKER_00: 14:59

I love that. You mentioned the book by Tim Keller. I I'm familiar with him, but I wasn't familiar with the book. Uh Meaning of Marriage, I think you said. Yes, sir. Talk to me about just before we get into your marriage later, but I want to kind of just ask you a quick question about it here right now. How do you feel like you evolved in your marriage based on what you read in that book, what you learned through that book? How have you grown in that situation?

SPEAKER_01: 15:25

The the book has helped me in a lot of ways. The book has really helped me understand the the biblical view of marriage. You know, a lot of a lot of times nowadays, you know, uh couples will will not see the value in in a covenant marriage in in terms of you know a relationship with both your spouse and with God. Um, so viewing it as a an agreement to my wife to to be a certain way, to do, do certain things that help uplift her, to be her friend uh first and and not just you know a um an intimate partner. There are so many different little tidbits in the book, but overarching it's it's more so, you know, how can I serve her instead of what can I get from her? Um that's a big part of the book that has really helped me, you know, waking up every single day and how can I serve her? How can I put her first? How can I lift her up in her career, in her um, in her interactions? And that's that's been one of the biggest aha moments for me. It's not about me. It's even not about us, it's about, you know, how can I serve her in the best way possible?

SPEAKER_00: 16:37

I love that. I want to get more into this. I have a lot more questions in regards to just uh your community work and just your your public life and your life of service. But talk to me a little bit about your wife, how did you guys meet, everything surrounding that, and then kind of uh part that what you just shared about your growing in marriage? Because I'm sure that you probably didn't, I'm I'm sure it's that was your first marriage, I'm assuming. So you probably didn't have a whole lot of ideas about how to do this. Might as well model with your parents, but you probably didn't know yourself how to be a husband, because that was my situation more than 30 years ago. So I'm trying to figure out how to do that, how to be that. So share about your wife. How'd you guys meet? How do we know her? Go ahead and share.

SPEAKER_01: 17:19

Sure. So my wife's name is Hannah. She's she's very well known in a lot of circles. Um, she she was on several uh TV, she TV shows um prior to me meeting her. So she was uh on The Bachelor, she was on uh The Bachelorette as the Bachelorette. So she had you know 30 some odd guys vying for her attention and love. Um that is uh that is a show that I haven't watched yet. I haven't watched well a season that I haven't watched yet. I I don't I don't know if I want to see her you know kissing 30 30 different guys, but um no, we we kind of joke about that at this point. Um, but she's she's amazing. She basically everything that she touches turns to gold. She was on Dancing with the Stars. She won Dancing with the Stars right after the the Bachelorette finale. Um so she went straight into that. Then she was on uh a show called Special Forces, um, where they there it's basically 10 days of of just this.

SPEAKER_00: 18:14

I heard about it.

SPEAKER_01: 18:16

I didn't know she was in it. You gotta watch it, man. There's it it's 10 days of rigorous training that special forces troops actually go through. Um, so the goal is to to last for 10 days and not tap out. And she she lasted, she won. So, you know, she's a an incredible person. I'm inspired by her every single day. And we met on a dating app. We met in California when we both lived there. We were both in in Venice, California when we met. Um, hit it off. I had no idea who she was when I went on the first date. Um, got to know her pretty quick just because it was you know kind of the start of COVID. And um we we were inseparable cents, and and she's she's amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 18:58

So many more questions to add to the questions I already had. But okay, you mentioned a few interesting things. I'm gonna start with just this one. So you meant through a dating app. Now, I'm asking that because yeah, a lot of just a lot of feelings or emotions from people around us about dating apps, what they like, what they don't like, why it's good, why it's not good. You guys had I I would assume you had network around you, people that you can meet, people that introduce you to other people, you know, you have people friends and that kind of things. Why did you guys decide to go the dating ad route as opposed to the so-called traditional way of meeting people?

SPEAKER_01: 19:38

Great question. I I can speak for myself and I'll kind of touch on why I think she did. Okay, but you know, a dating app for me was, you know, casting a wider net, I get so to say. I think that in California, LA especially, um, you know, there are just so many people. And I didn't want to go the the typical way of meeting a girl at a bar or you know, anything like that, just because I wanted I wanted someone who was like minded and and shared my values. And you can kind of um you can tell based on someone's profile and what they write, what kind of values they have. So um it was more of a you know initial vetting process so that you know I didn't waste her time. And she didn't waste mine. So that was kind of my thought process behind a dating app. Also, I was really, really busy and it just it saved a little bit of time. I would have loved to just like casually run into her at the supermarket or something, but um yeah, that I just, you know, for me, it wasn't gonna happen because I was, you know, um, you know, working downtown, I was living on the west side, and you know, travel was was taking up a lot of my time. So um for her, I think that she was trying to get back into the dating world. She was in, you know, she was on the Bachelor Red and it didn't work out with the guy that she ended up with at the end of the show. And um, she was actually creating a YouTube series on re-entering the dating life. So um, you know, I actually I actually looked at her YouTube after our first date, and she was basically documenting all of these dates that she was going on. Um wow. So yeah, I I could have been one of her her YouTube um posts about about how the date didn't go well. Thankfully, I was not, but that that was basically the series that she was putting together. So she got back on the on a dating app because she was getting back out in the dating world.

SPEAKER_00: 21:28

That makes a lot of sense. You mentioned how everything that Hannah touches turn to go. I remember the old what's it a story or a fable about Midas? Remember the remember that old the old fable? Maybe the Midas turn the gold? That's a that's a huge responsibility, but it definitely comes with a lot of uh incremental success. Tell me how if you can speak for her in this moment, because she's not here. How does she handle that? Because if you if you're successful with everything that you do, it has to do something to it has to be an impact on you. Everything you do, it works out for you. How does she handle this?

SPEAKER_01: 22:04

That's a good question. Um, that would definitely be a question for her. Um but if I were if I were to guess, um, she handles it really, really well. I mean, it it's not one of those things where I don't think she goes into things ex, you know, preparing to win and then how she's gonna handle it. I think she just goes in, gives it her 100% effort. She puts everything into everything that she does, or she does it. She's kind of you know, all in or nothing. And that's kind of how I am. So we we definitely um we definitely uh relate to each other in that. So I don't think she's you know really even thinking about it. She's just thinking, like, I'm gonna go in this and and put everything that I possibly can into winning this, whatever it is, or doing my best in this. And that's kind of her mentality around everything. Um, my word for this year is excellence because I see so much excellence in her. Um, you know, something that she says is if you're gonna do anything, do it a hundred percent. Something I'm paraphrasing that, that probably just butchered that. But she's it's like if you're gonna do it, then do it. Like give it give it a hundred percent. And uh yeah, I I would imagine that that's kind of how she would answer that.

SPEAKER_00: 23:21

Oh, that that sounds about right. Now, I don't want to make assumptions, but some of the things that you shared about Hannah Hannah suggest to me that she might be a bit of a risk taker. Because to me, to go on special forces, I mean, all I've seen was clips because I don't do a lot of TV watching, but I do one of the things in my uh in my limited TV watching. And the the the commercials at least, you know how these are clips anyway, so you know how it is. Trying to promote something. They seem intense to me. Yeah, to do something like this. And then to even be put yourself out here, everybody knows you, and you're out here on the bachelor. I forgot about the fact that you're on the bachelor, I forgot about that part. I just I know about the bachelorette. So she was doing this. That's that's that's risk to put yourself out here with these people, you know what I'm saying, and put your life basically on on the screen in front of everybody. Do you view her as a risk taker? Do you see that in other areas of life? Did you know that before you met her, or is this something that is kind of just uh a new uh a new evolution of Hannah, if you will?

SPEAKER_01: 24:28

I definitely think she's a risk taker. I think that you know, putting yourself out there, being being in front of you know millions of people is is taking a risk. I mean, you you risk um you know your your character, you risk um public humiliation, you risk a lot of things. And um it takes a lot of courage to do that. And I think that's why people are so drawn to her. You know, she is um someone who people really relate to because she's real, she's not putting on an act. Um, what you see is what you get with her. And I think that's why um she was asked to be the bachelorette after being on the bachelor, because she was just she said it like it was. Like she was, she almost didn't have a filter, which sometimes got her in trouble. But um, she she just she told you exactly what she was thinking and feeling. And people can really relate to that because they're like, oh, I was thinking that same thing, but you just said it. So yeah, you know, she she is not super risk averse. I'm I'm probably more risk averse than she is. Um, but I admire that so so much about her. Like to go on to special forces, you know, with I mean, Dwight Howard was on there, Danny Amendola, like two very um successful athletes, pro athletes, and to outlast them and to beat them and and to think that you can uh it's crazy. Yeah, she's she's um very, very open to risk.

SPEAKER_00: 25:51

Now, this could be considered a private conversation, so if you can't answer, you can't answer, but can you uh explain for us how she described the fact that she's won that competition against all these highly athletic people? Can you can you describe for us or or share what she shared with you why she believes she's won that?

SPEAKER_01: 26:15

Sure. Yeah, with her, um, she's really great at compartmentalizing. She's she's very so she would tell you this. Um, she's ADHD, so she has trouble focusing on multiple things at once, or or you know, managing multiple things. Um but if she has one specific goal, if there's, you know, dancing with the stars, for example, you know, um she she just knew that she had to show up every single day and get better at dancing and crush it on the nights that she had to dance. Same thing with special forces. She was just like, I have one goal, I need to make it to the end, and I got to do everything that I have to do to do that. Um, when she has that singular focus, she can do pretty much anything, in my opinion, because everything is everything else um extraneous, everything else on the periphery is not existent. Um, so you know, she I I tell this story. She she had an opportunity to um use her phone call. They give everyone a phone call on special forces, and pretty much everyone did uh use theirs. Hannah did not. She did not call me, she did not call her parents, she did not want to check in because she knew that it would take her mind out of the goal at hand. Um, so that that's just a testament to who she is and how focused she was. Um, but I would say that her ability to compartmentalize on one specific goal was what got her to the end.

SPEAKER_00: 28:29

Made total sense. All right, so I'm I'm not a big reality TV person, so hopefully my people don't sound clunky regarding that because I don't know a lot about that world. I see things like everybody else does randomly. Can you take us behind the scenes of this reality TV uh opportunity that she had with the bachelorette? What's what's going on? What's happen happening behind the scenes? Can you kind of be Mr. Fire for us? Is that something you you allow to do? If you're trying to end an NDA, you know, the no answer, but I mean, I'm just kind of just wondering what it's like behind the scenes from her perspective, from your perspective, even you know, you know, just being a husband, what's this life like with paparazzi and all the public attention? Kind of talk about that a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 29:13

Sure. So I wasn't there whenever she was on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, um, but you know, obviously after the fact on different shows that she's been on. Um but you know, she is recognized out in public quite a bit, um, especially in Nashville and LA. I mean, it's it's um, you know, not unusual for us to, you know, walk down a busy street or go shopping and be stopped and you know, pictures and all that kind of stuff. Um, paparazzi isn't isn't bad, especially in Nashville, LA. You know, whenever we first started dating, we did get hit with some paparazzi just because um, you know, she was getting back in the dating world. She was a bachelorette and people wanted to know who she was dating. So um it was uh challenging at first, but you know, it's she she handles it really well. She's great with fans. Anyone who wants to, you know, walk up and take a picture, she introduces herself, she's very cordial and um she will take the time to get to know you. And um, something that's just something else I admire about her. You know, she's not really rattled by that. Um, so in terms of how she handles it, I mean, she handles it better than anyone I've seen. Um, so yeah, she's she's kind of built for it. Okay. How do you handle it? At first it was tough. You know, I I was essentially, you know, picked apart by certain people that followed her. And, you know, they just wanted to to make sure that I was worthy of Oh my goodness, really? Yeah, make sure I was worthy of dating their their favorite um reality star. So yeah, you know, it was it was challenging at first because anything I did, anything I said, anything that I had put out to the world via social media before meeting Hannah was was scrutinized, was kind of picked apart. And, you know, I kind of went into a little hole for a little bit. Um, I didn't post anything. I was very, you know, tight-lipped, and I just wanted to appear as this buttoned-up character that was worthy of um dating Hannah. So it was challenging at first, but I kind of found my way with it. Now, you know, it's like I'm I'm just gonna be me. And you know, some people are not gonna like me, some people are gonna like me. Uh, but that's with anything. And you have you have to realize that, especially when you have a little bit more eyeballs on you. Um, things that you put out will be received by the people that need to receive it, and things will will not be received by the people who don't need it or don't want it. So um that comes with anything, but I would much rather be in the arena if you know the the um the quote by I think it was was it Roosevelt or Eisenhower? Basically the man in the arena. You want you want to be the man in the arena, not the the um bystanders who are criticizing the man in the arena. So that's what that's what I'm attempting to do at this point.

SPEAKER_00: 31:52

Okay, I don't know who is Bob, but I like it though. It's good. So you shared about the anxiety of the engagement season. What do you think created the tension during that time for you guys?

SPEAKER_01: 32:06

What created the the the tension, you said?

SPEAKER_00: 32:09

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 32:11

Um in our engagement, like leading up to marriage, right? Um there was, I mean, there was tension around making sure that everything went well in terms of the wedding. You know, we we wanted to throw a great party, we wanted everybody to feel um comfortable and and uh invited. We wanted it to be in an inviting atmosphere at our at our wedding. So uh there was a little bit of of tension around that. Otherwise, it went pretty smoothly. Like we had a great wedding planner. Um, we um were pretty dialed in in that aspect, but leading up to it, it was a little bit challenging just because we were worried about um everybody else instead of us at this point.

SPEAKER_00: 32:54

That's that's something I want to come back to that, but I did see some of the pictures and look like you guys do uh it was it looked different to me. I don't know, I'm seeing it in in steel photos, so bear that in mind. But it looked like you were just different from a normal wedding party. Look like it was fun, look like it was family and friends, it looked like it was like it wasn't a wedding, but it but it was. I mean, she was in the wedding dress, so yeah, but it was just it it was so uh inviting and welcoming. So I think you gotta achieve that. Now, that last comment you just made. Talk to me about that a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 33:29

About worrying about other people's experience instead of ours. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, that's something that we we had to work through for sure. You know, that that's not something that we went into the wedding with, um, but we were really um focused on making sure that everybody had what they needed. We wanted everybody to have a good experience with our travel planner. That was tough because you know, she wasn't super responsive because she had so many people to handle. Um, so we were uh pulled into that a little bit and we had to kind of refocus and put our attention on like this is our wedding, this is our day. Um, we need to make sure that we actually enjoy this process. And, you know, people are, you know, everyone who's coming, they're grown-ups. They can figure out how to get there, they can figure out where they're staying, they can figure out uh where they need to be because we have a good wedding planner. Um, so there was definitely a moment of refocusing and and putting the focus back on us and and our enjoyment of the the process.

SPEAKER_00: 34:30

I love this, I love this. So obviously, you have a very well you I guess I think you still have a public relationship. I guess I can still say that. Uh but you definitely did back then. What did you learn about boundaries, love, identity? What did you learn about that? What both of you learned about that since well as as you're walking through this uh very public relationship? What are you guys learning about love and boundaries and identity? Boundaries, as in our boundaries with the media and with with um other people, sure, and then of course the space you give each other, the things that you know need to understand about what each other needs, all of that stuff. Can you share?

SPEAKER_01: 35:13

Yeah. Um it boundaries are are challenging because you know, Hannah, Hannah makes a lot of her um money, all of her content is is kind of uh surrounding our day-to-day lives. Um so there has to be kind of time blacks of like, oh, okay, you know, we're gonna we're gonna film something between two and four today. The rest of the day, we'll put our phones away, we will create boundaries for ourselves so that we're not completely locked into um our work. And uh that's something that we we established pretty early on. You know, there are things that um she has to get done throughout the day that require, you know, um us being uh on camera and you know on social media and all that kind of stuff. So um that that took a little bit to kind of fine-tune. Um otherwise, you know, it's it's like any other job. You know, she she has to clock in and clock out, so to say, and um put it away whenever she she's done with it. Um so yeah, social media is a beast. It's it's one of those things that can really draw you in and and consume you, or you know, you can you can be um diligent about those boundaries and and it can be a great tool and it can be a great way of connection.

SPEAKER_00: 36:33

It's total sense. Total sense. So you talked a lot about your volunteer work and your heart for service. Sound like Hannah has a very busy schedule. Is she involved in some of your volunteer work? Does she does she have a heart for service like you do? I'm not asking for that part. But do you guys share in that work? Is that something you do together now, or is it something that's kind of like your thing and she has her thing? How's that work for you guys?

SPEAKER_01: 36:57

She is she is definitely involved. I mean, uh we we run the um the marriage group together. So um, you know, the the group is full of couples and and we do it through our church. Uh we don't have a curriculum, but we basically came up with our own curriculum based on on the book Meeting of Marriage. Um and she definitely has a heart for it. You know, we serve about once a month. You know, we'll we'll go to um, you know, food service companies and and hand out food to to the homeless. And um, you know, we we try to do at least one thing like that a month. Um, but then with our with our marriage group, um we meet every other Sunday. So yeah, uh servant leadership is something that we're we're really focusing on in our relationship, especially. I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 37:44

I'm gonna share a quick story to kind of preface my next question. I'm from probably one of the most popular cities in the entire world. So I've been around celebrities, I've been on trains and with them. It's not surprising, surprising to be walk walking down the street and bumping to them. Literally, I don't really get starstruck. I used to go to uh a church in Florida, I can't name it because it was that well known. Full of celebrities, full of baseball players. Florida is where your baseball players would go for uh for sprint for this for the spring. So you see them, they would actually live out there, which is convenient for them. So I've seen them all the time. I've seen politicians and actors, everything the church never gets starstruck, they asked for an autograph. You guys are faithful members of a church. Tell me what you're seeing in that regard. Are you seeing people getting starstruck? People uh the understanding you guys are real people and not just uh public images. Do they understand that? What are you seeing, Anna?

SPEAKER_01: 38:48

It it's yeah, so we we have so many friends at our church. Um, there's there's not a whole lot of um there's definitely no issue with you know Hannah being well known and um you know our relationship being public. Um, but no, people see us as as human beings because we are that way and we treat people that way. Um there's no you know arrogance or air of um um superiority. There never has been with Hannah. That's that's not just not who she is. Um, so you know, people will come up and introduce themselves if they know her, um, but it's really casual. It's it's um not something that really goes to her head. And um it's it's a very casual um atmosphere when we go to church. We love it. And you know, there are other people who are well known that go to church with us, and um it's a very inviting atmosphere.

SPEAKER_00: 39:40

No, I love it, I love it. All right, so you our conversation, you're doing mindfulness and and wellness coaching. Speak to the modern man today. What kind of principles do you think we're modern men are missing most in the pursuit of success and health?

SPEAKER_01: 39:58

Oh, that's a really good question. There are there are so many different ways to to skin a cat, so to say. Um, but you know, being ever heard that that must be a sudden thing.

SPEAKER_00: 40:12

No, no, no. I heard it it was many years ago, and I'm like, wow, yeah, got it.

SPEAKER_01: 40:16

Yeah, well, I'm I mean, I'm pushing 40, so I'm I'm an old soul, I guess. Um, you know, things that men are missing, it structure, I think. Structure and discipline. Okay. Um, you know, there are so many different things that you can change about your life with just a little bit of discipline and consistency. Um, you know, in terms of health, being consistent with your your sleep schedule, being consistent with your diet, being consistent uh with your exercise routine. Um it doesn't have to be complicated, but it has to be structured and it has to be disciplined. You know, working out one time a week, eating right, you know, every other day, it's not going to get you the results that you're you're probably gonna be looking for. So consistency is really important, and discipline is something that. Um, you know, most successful men have. And those that don't have it are typically not going to be successful in whatever pursuit they're they're going after. It's total sense. I like that.

SPEAKER_00: 41:19

Especially when you're 30. But uh full disclosure. But you are the VP of business development, I think, and a health coach for blokes men helps. Talk about blokes and how you're uh dealing with business but still caring for people at the same time. Talk to talk to us about that. How you doing?

SPEAKER_01: 41:39

My life, yeah. Great question. My life is pretty much structured around helping people. So um that's how I want it to be. I feel most um I feel most fulfilled when I'm helping other people live their best life. Um, so at Joy and Blokes, that the the company we it, you know, Joy is the women's arm, blokes is the men's arm. We just kind of combine the names and now it's joy and blokes. So we are a telehealth company. Um, we focus on really extensive diagnostic labs. So we we get your blood drawn when you come to us, uh, and then we interpret those labs and offer different treatments. You know, a lot of them uh involve hormone replacement therapy, um, peptides, uh, targeted supplements. Um, so those are kind of the three main categories that we focus on. But it's a it's a holistic health um telehealth company. So we're not trying to give you, you know, a pill for an ailment. We are trying to work on the foundational issues of health first by getting your blood drawn and seeing all of your um diagnostic labs. Um so I work with patients one-on-one throughout the day. Um, I also work with um you know ambassadors, influencers who are using our product just to get our name out there. I go on podcasts and speak about uh the company quite a bit. So uh my job is to uh put more eyeballs on the on the company, but also help patients one-on-one. I love it. I love this.

SPEAKER_00: 43:08

All right, so you talked about finance, you talked about modeling and acting, you know, public life stuff, service. Tell me what ties all this together because I don't I don't believe these are all random things that we just do. This is the coach and me coming out and not asking this question. I believe thread that ties all this together because something drew you to all these places. What do you think that is? The thread that ties it all together, your entire story. What do you think it is? Man, what a great question.

SPEAKER_01: 43:41

Um I I could tell you individually what drew me to each of them, but I think what ties everything together is um just just the need to be better. I I think that you know, I I kind of hit a stale point in banking, so that led me to acting modeling because it was uh a challenge. Um modeling turned a little bit um superficial, and I didn't see a whole lot of uh me focusing on other people, which is is one of my big values. Like I want to be a servant leader, I want to help other people. So that led me to um a sales job where I could help uh help people more. Um and I think that you know, I'm I'm just trying to level up in every area of my life constantly. So if I see that I'm getting a little bit, you know, in the mud and something, then I have to make a change. So I think that everything that ties it together is probably just overall personal development. Like I want to grow, I want to uh become better in everything that I'm doing. And if I feel like I'm I'm you know losing momentum, then I have to pivot. I have to make a change. And I think a lot of people can get stuck in what they're doing. And I have gotten stuck before. Um, and changing direction is a lot of times what we need. So I think just consistent growth is what ties it all together. That's a tough question, man. That's tough. This is what I do on the show, but I'm sorry. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I mean, it's it's a it gets you thinking about like, you know, a lot of times for me, it's hard to plan for the future. It's hard to plan five, 10 years out. Um, but when you ask questions like that, you kind of look back and and it's easier to connect the dots when you're looking back. Um, so yeah, I think I think that I just, you know, I'm I really want to grow in every aspect of life. And I feel like if I'm not growing, I have to pivot. And that's what leads me to the next thing.

SPEAKER_00: 45:46

Well, definitely. I'm a big believer in in learning from the past, I just don't want to live there. Absolutely. I agree with that. So, last couple of questions for you. Uh, what advice would you give to somebody who is struggling with which path to choose? Because you had the opportunity, as did I, to take the safe path. My mom didn't want me acting. I was trying to do uh uh soap opera uh auditions at all my children. Yes, I was trying to be a New York Yankee. I was trying to be at the School of Performing Arts. Those are not safe choices for her. She'd be like, you know what? Find something like engineering, something with math. You can have you know that kind of thing, or authentic path. Some people are faced with both choices. A lot of the time, we are the safe choice and the authentic one. How do you encourage somebody or give some advice to somebody who's Christian with that kind of decision? What would you say to them?

SPEAKER_01: 46:44

That's one of the most challenging decisions because you want to be authentic, but you also have um responsibility to yourself, to your family, to um to God. And um I think that you know, authenticity, if you can be authentic in what you're doing while also pursuing something that satisfies those human needs of you know, providing for yourself, providing for your family, um, you know, fulfilling you, uh if you can do both of those things, that's the ultimate. And and advice around that is very specific to the person, but um, you know, finding something that is authentic to you, that aligns with who you want to be and how you want to show up in the world, that also um can you know very bluntly make you money to be able to survive and to live, um, I think is the ultimate goal. Um I I think that pursuing things that that really light you up inside, that that um you know give you confidence in what you're doing, um, something that is going to help the most amount of people. Um, but it it depends on your values. And you know, some people don't value helping a ton of people, other people uh value just like really focusing on bringing in money so they can take care of their family. So there are different values that you have to evaluate in order to determine if that next path is the right one for you. Um but it takes it takes a lot of um you know self-reflection, a lot of discovery, and it's not always an overnight um aha moment. You know, a lot of times it takes a lot of redirection and and fine-tuning. So not a simple answer, um, but just keep at it and and continue changing path until you find the right one for you.

SPEAKER_00: 48:35

Well, Adam, you're an incredible person. You are definitely a renaissance man for sure. You got an amazing story, a very blessed life, man. It's been an honor to have you on here, man.

SPEAKER_01: 48:45

Thank you so much for having me. This has been a very enjoyable conversation. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00: 48:50

Same here, brother. Uh, take the next 120 seconds and kind of just uh let folks know how they can support you, how they can find you if you want to be found. I don't want to assume that. If you want to be found, how can they how can they find you? How can I support you? Whether it's with uh Joy and Blokes, however, you want to be uh reached out to, let them know how they can do that today. Go ahead. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01: 49:12

So yeah, I'm on I'm mostly on Instagram, so you can find me on Instagram. It's adm-a-n-d-e-w. You follow me on Instagram? Yeah, I think I follow you. If not, I'm going to right after the show. Um, but no, I'm mostly on Instagram. Um, so hit me up there. Also, joinblokes.com. I mean, if you uh want to take control of your health, you know, first step is filling out a health history form and we take care of the rest after that. But um, yeah, I'm I'm available via Instagram and and happy to help in any way that I can.

SPEAKER_00: 49:42

Thank you very much for your time, but it's been an awesome conversation. Please give my wife's best to Hannah. Talk about that guy's a little bit excited about the conversation today. So my wife's gonna be excited to see it and and watch it, but give her our best, please. And and thank thank thank you for your time on this and dude. You're a busy man. So thanks for being here and doing this interview today. I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. For you guys that are watching and listening for the very first time. In the upper right-hand corner of your screen, the QR code, you can grab that to find out all of the shows that we've done on our brand and all of our one-on-one episodes with awesome folks like Adam. So thanks again for your time, watching and listening. We're on all social media platforms, primarily Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. And of course, on Apple Podcasts, we can drop us a five-star review as to how you love our show and what you want to hear more of. Thanks again for your time and watching and listening. Adam, thanks again for you. Have a great day, guys. I'm Mr. U.S.