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Varuschka Nagesar: Breaking The Barriers of Limiting Beliefs

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Executive empowerment coach Varuschka Nagesar shares her journey from practicing law in South Africa to coaching in London, revealing how alignment between values and career choices leads to fulfillment and authentic leadership.

• Born and raised in South Africa before moving to the UK for corporate work
• Values freedom of movement as a way to learn about people, places, and oneself 
• Witnessed South Africa's transition after apartheid, shaping her sense of justice
• Believes career pivots should be guided by intuition and personal values
• Associates "alignment" with understanding one's soul and inner wisdom
• Helps clients overcome cultural conditioning that leads to people-pleasing
• Identifies authentic leadership as acting with empathy, intention, and leading from head and heart
• Coaches people through limiting beliefs by creating space for self-questioning
• Uses negotiation skills in relationships by reading people's emotions, not just applying business tactics
• Recommends that coaches have their own coaches, especially for business development

Everything is within your power, and the power is within you. Whether you work with a coach, mentor, or friend, what you do for yourself becomes invaluable knowledge that no one can take away from you.


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Speaker 1:

Hey, welcome back to one on one with Mr you. Of course, I'm your host, mr you, in studio with us. Executive empowerment coach Varuska Nagasawa. How are you, varuska?

Speaker 2:

Hey Yusuf, I'm really good thanks. How are you?

Speaker 1:

Fantastic, good to see you, good to have you here with us. We had a fantastic pre-interview chat. There's a lot I want to get into. I got a lot of questions. How do I get them all into a 30-minute box? I don't know how we're going to pull it off, but we do our best. But customarily I always ask our guests to come in and kind of share a little bit about their childhood and their upbringing. What would you say is a key factor in getting you from here to there? I should say from there to here.

Speaker 2:

So go ahead and share, and there, meaning where I was born, to here where I'm sitting today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in life yeah. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:

Well, my story is an easy one to describe because I have physically moved. So I was born and brought up in South Africa, and that's where I studied and practiced law initially, and then I was fortunate enough to be able to travel the world. Because of work, I chose to move into the corporate world and, physically, I then ended up moving to the UK. So I'm sitting in London, united Kingdom, at the moment.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I love it. I love it. What would you say is a key factor in the person that you grew up being to who you are right now? Do you see a place where it kind of makes sense?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a lot of key factors. I think one of which I could touch on is a theme in my life anyway is that growing up, my parents moved around a few times.

Speaker 2:

So I lived in a few different towns in the city that I grew up in and then I moved around after university and worked in different cities as well as moved many times throughout my career. So I think an important factor is the freedom of movement and the things that you get to learn about people and places and yourself as you move around, and I sort of love that. I love that freedom of movement and freedom of being able to to learn about other people, but also to learn to be yourself eventually.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. I love that. We talked about it a little bit in our pre-interview. But where's your name come from? It's really pretty. But where's your name come from? It's really pretty. Where's your name come from?

Speaker 2:

sure. So the story behind my name is that my mom saw the name and she really liked it, and it was actually the name of a German model at the time. However, I am not German, nor am I Russian, because some people think that the name sounds like it. I'm actually of Indian heritage, although I was born and brought up in South Africa, and so it was a very somewhat common name that they chose, albeit mine is spelled differently.

Speaker 1:

OK, I love this, so I will talk a little bit about your travels from South Africa to London. I had many friends that are here in the States. Some are farming, some are teachers, some are ministers of some sort, so I hear a lot of stories about South Africa. Where do you think your sense of justice comes from?

Speaker 2:

I was born at a time that was just after apartheid and or at the cusp of it, so, whilst I couldn't really say that I've had too many direct experiences about the racial divisions, I did grow up at a time that was full of hope, and it was when the change came and I saw Nelson Mandela come out of prison and I chose to study law.

Speaker 2:

So I went to law school and we had a new constitution, and so, as a very bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, young, enthusiastic wannabe lawyer, I was very hopeful, and so I was coming from a perspective of a South Africa that was at a difficult time, but also at the cusp of greatness and something really positive that moving forward that it was going to do, and it changed the world right. It put us on the map in a good way, not in a bad way, and so the country that I know and the place that I've been, and what was so significant about that time, is that, as much as it has a difficult history, it shaped who I was going to become and how I saw the world.

Speaker 1:

I love this. I try not to ask you questions, but sometimes they just can't help it. Sure, we have. There's clear complexities in the human spirit and because you're empowering people in career transitions or in their careers and trying to help them grow in their full leadership potential and stuff like that, if you heard somebody who was trying to grow in their career but they're being held back because of factors outside of their skills or outside of what they can accomplish, it's more about who they are and what they look like. What is the first reaction to that? Based on what you experienced and what you saw, how do you even they never know how you're going to feel? It's between you and I.

Speaker 2:

What's your initial reaction? Well, you touch on something really important, right? Because as a coach, you can't bring your feelings, your reactions or your beliefs into that conversation. You're holding space for your client, You're allowing them to learn. You, you're allowing them to learn, you're allowing them to find the answer. But yes, under under the surface, there will be a reaction and probably it will start with a bit of anger and a sense of how unfair that would be. And how is it possible? These are the things that would go through my head is how is it possible? These are the things that would go through my head is how is it possible that this is still happening in this day and age? We've learned so much, there's so much information out there, there's so much healing going on there. Just what someone looks like or the color of their skin how is it that we're still challenging ourselves on that aspect?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I can't answer that, but that would be my first reaction too. I love that you were transparent enough to share that. Thank you for doing that. You're helping people with career transitions. When did you realize that you had to pivot in your career? Was there a point where you're like, uh-oh, it's time to make a change?

Speaker 2:

Right. So remember I was talking about how much I've moved around, yeah. And so with every move came some form of a pivot, and some of those were because of studies, but most of it was because of work. And so when I knew that I needed to make a change or career pivot, it was more about each experience was a stepping stone to the next one and I wanted to learn as much as I could about the subject matter in that particular job. I wanted to learn about people and I wanted to learn about myself.

Speaker 2:

And it just so happens that whenever it was time to pivot, whenever it was time to change in each of those career moves and then I'll talk about the coaching as well is that I got this feeling like, oh, I think I've gotten what I need out of this, or that sense of I'm getting too comfortable or something doesn't feel right. I don't feel great in this environment. So it was sort of that intuitive feeling, along with questioning am I learning what I came here to learn? Am I doing what I came here to do? And it just so happens that life was such that I got offers which allowed me to make those pivots at the time, and I knew it was right because then the next pivot challenged me even more to be a better version of what I was trying to become. I was learning more about myself, but also business and the world and whatever that role brought.

Speaker 2:

But the pivot to coaching was really about the last corporate role that I had. The circumstances were such that the culture, the management, everything you can think of challenged me in a way that made me question am I in the right place and is this where I want to continue? Is this the version of me that I want to be, or is it something else? And the answer was no. This is not the right environment for me and this is not who I am, and this is not who right environment for me and this is not who I am and this is not who I want to be. And once I made that decision to leave, I knew it was right because it felt very peaceful it's really good.

Speaker 1:

I love this, love this. Uh, some. Now I'm somebody who's moved around a lot, not only geographically. The numbers would blow your mind how many times I actually physically moved from place to place. You think it was incredible for somebody not in the military. I've also done so in my careers as well. I think it's just part of the personality thing. I get what I think I need and then I, you know I'm bored, ready to move on. Let's play a little word association for a script. If I say the word alignment to you, which the word that's really big for me right now, if I say the word alignment to you, which is a word that's really big for me right now, if I say the word alignment to you, tell me what you think about, tell me what you feel when I say alignment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the first word that came to mind was soul.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the reason why that came to me is because in the last few years especially in the last two years, but even more than that, probably pre-pandemic in the last two years, but even more than that, probably pre-pandemic I've been doing a lot of work on my own self-awareness and a little bit of soul searching, if you will and Seat of the Soul comes to mind by Gary Zukav and what I've come to realize is to be able to feel confident about where you are in life and who you are. You need to understand, you need to understand you and to feel like you are doing what feels right. But how do I know what feels right? And so I worked backwards and I did the work and I realized that if I understand who I am, so if I knew what my, I use my core values as a filter for my daily decisions, because that's how I know if something sits right or doesn't sit right Do I want to go spend time with that person or do I want to spend time by myself, and so that's really helpful.

Speaker 2:

But then it's also that voice and that gut feeling when I've made a couple of career pivots or moves, when I've made a couple of career pivots or moves on paper. You know it wouldn't make sense, but it just felt like the right thing to do. And when I say it wouldn't make sense, I mean I didn't know all the variables, so it was a bit of a risk or a gamble, but not a bad one. And so being able to understand intuition and being able to understand how I could trust it was something that was important to me. And intuition is linked to the soul, which is why, when you said alignment, I thought about soul, because I thought about that inner wisdom and the core values is also something that comes from who you are and how you've been shaped by your environment, your family, your circumstances. So if I took the core values, if I took the intuition and if I took just believing in myself, all of those things come from the inside, and the best way I could describe that was the soul.

Speaker 1:

No, I love that. It's beautiful. I want to start getting some of the work that you've been doing. Work that you've been doing. I can tell from my own research and what you share with me that you deal with a lot of women in different stages of their life mid-career, some more established and they're thinking about changing out of a long-term career and pivoting to something brand new. People who are in their 40s and higher. And I want you to do this without putting any of your clients on blast, because I'm not trying to be incendiary here. I just want you to do this without putting any of your clients on blast, because I'm not trying to be incendiary here. I just want to get your honest thoughts as a coach, because it helps me, because I've been in the coaching space for over 25 years and I'm still learning some things.

Speaker 1:

So I learned from you and even as I learned from experience, what would you say out of all those different types of people that you have to deal with, which is the one that you feel like? Types of people that you have to deal with, which is the one that you feel like? I don't know. Challenging is the best word. I'm struggling to find a better word. That may be the most challenging one, where you have to do maybe some more work than any other different types. Is there one that kind of stands out, all of those, and can you tell me why?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I don't stand out because they're in a particular box or category. It can be difficult. I think what stood out for me was a cultural thing, because I do have a lot of clients also in south africa and, depending on the, the environment that they grew up in, so probably yeah, if they're in their late 40s, 50s, etc. It might be more challenging, depending on, you know, when they grew up.

Speaker 2:

What I found was and without giving anything away cultural conditioning sometimes leads to people pleasing, sometimes leads to people pleasing, and what happens is we for lack of a better phrase we give away our power in certain parts of our life, for example, our families. We give too much and it costs us who we are and our authenticity, and it's a price that we shouldn't even be paying, because nobody asks us to do that, but silently we do it. And so I found that some of my clients struggle with that, you know, building the boundaries, because it's just that upbringing and that cultural environment or the need to constantly explain without saying that they want something and it's okay to want that, it's self-preservation, it's not selfishness, and so it's that vocabulary, it's that thinking and that internal dialogue that they're having about. Oh, can I do this for me, is it okay to do that for me? And a lot of women struggle with that in general in different parts of their life because, yeah, because of the.

Speaker 2:

You know that nurturing side and that conditioning side give more than we take.

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely as as as coaches, I I believe, just a general statement that we kind of coach a lot from our experiences. It's a general statement that we kind of coach a lot from our experiences, not just modules and worksheets and and diagram. We coach my experiences sometimes too, and the life lessons and the course they retail that we walk through. We try to share that so that they won't have to walk through it. I experienced this when I was doing in spiritual life coaching many years ago. I wondered if you'd experienced it too.

Speaker 1:

At what point, especially with what you described people who are in South Africa or in tough cultural and environmental situations. At what point, what would it take for you to say you know what? Maybe it's time for you to move. You move so much and sometimes you didn't, you know, you didn't have much of a choice, it was part of your job and everything. But at what point do you say you know what? Maybe it's just time? I've called people who stayed in their hometowns for years and years and they you can obviously think about the challenges of that everybody there knew you when you were in diapers and they already had pre-judgments. Like you and your family, they felt like they knew the cap or who you would be, and anything beyond that was outside of what they could understand, and at some point you have to tell folks you know what. Maybe it's just time for you to just move and relocate, start afresh. Is there ever a time or scenario where you feel like you have to have that conversation with a client?

Speaker 2:

I think that's a really tough one because again it's like we were saying before we don't want to tell people what to do, because then we're colouring it with our own biases and judgements.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know, but I mean, maybe it's past, yeah. There's something to think about no.

Speaker 2:

Something to think about. Absolutely so options and scenarios and just role plays usually help a lot. So, without actually telling them, it's more like let's do this role play. What would it mean if you did this and how would your life be if you were to move, for example? I've never felt the need to sort of force someone to do something like that. Most people seem to be well-established in their lives and all of that. But when it comes to sort of answering your question, it's a change of environment, rather because people making big changes.

Speaker 2:

I've come to realize that as as easy as it was for me, some people don't see that as as easy. They see it as very stressful and they are comfortable where they are and just as much as we like to move, and people don't may not understand that some people need to be in their space, they need to be where they feel most safe and comfortable. But changing up the scenario, definitely I I sometimes I have the feeling I want to push someone in a particular direction because you know you can see the answer or you could see that that would give them more insight. But that's when you have to catch yourself right and really be careful with the words you choose and the solutions you present. So it isn't your answer to the question, but them figuring out the answer for themselves so, absolutely, I love that.

Speaker 1:

I love you. I love your answer. I wasn't trying to force anybody to do anything. Don't get no, no, I hear you oh my, I'm gonna be wrong, that's not. That's not what I do.

Speaker 1:

But I know, I know. I'm glad you understand. Yeah, you've experienced what it means to be at the pinnacle of your career. What do you, what do you say to somebody who's actually in the chase right now, trying to get to where you've been? You had success, you had the influence, you had the impact. I would imagine you had the money as well. What would you say to somebody who's in the chase, is trying to get there, who perhaps may just want to get there because of what they imagine it will be like? What would you say to them?

Speaker 2:

I would say stop and ask yourself what you really want and why, because your why is key to driving you to the next place that you need to be in. I truly believe that every move that I made and places that I was in is because I was clear about what I wanted at the time, based on what I understood, and provided I did it with intention, I generally found it good. I found that I learned what I needed to learn and it satisfied the need. But at the same time, you stop and you question whether you're getting what you need and whether you are in the right place, and you'll figure it out whether that move is worth it or not and whether you're learning what you need. And sometimes you just have to be in a certain space because life is going to teach you something anyway because life is going to teach you something anyway.

Speaker 1:

You betcha, I'm sure there was a pivotal moment where you moved or you realized that it was time to get out of the corporate world and go into coaching. I remember where mine was. Can you recall what your pivotal moment was? Do you remember what it was?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I think you know connecting the dots backwards. There'll always be multiple dots in multiple places. It's the last dot when you stand in an office and you realize that you know what. There was a time where I loved being in the office. I love being around people, I love doing the meetings and I love all of this traveling and I love all of that doing the meetings and I loved all of this traveling and I loved all of that. But when you are being treated in a way that doesn't value who you are and is an environment that's taking away from who you're becoming, and you have to choose to either betray yourself, or choose to step away from the environment because you can't change it single-handedly.

Speaker 2:

That's when you know, yeah, it's time, I've gotten everything I needed out of this and it's time for me to go do what I'm supposed to do. And so yeah, it's when I stood in an office in central London and I asked myself those questions. That's when I knew.

Speaker 1:

That's when you knew it. Huh. You've been able to experience so many diverse workplace cultures and you've just seen so many things. Is there a universal truth about leadership that you've seen?

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that's true or good. Leadership is really about people who act with authenticity, empathy and intention, meaning they leave from a space that's both head and heart. I've seen leaders who, you know, use their ego and come from a very self-motivating perspective and with very high titles, of course, with little good impact. And yet I've seen people with not such high titles or regardless of their title, they've led in a way that has had a very big impact on people, and it's because of their authenticity and their empathy and they realize the influence that they have on the people around them. But they're also a role model, because they can be themselves and so that they can allow others to be themselves even whilst they're making difficult decisions in difficult spaces, and sometimes they have to tell people things that they don't like to hear.

Speaker 2:

But when you come from a place of authenticity, I think it's a little easier for people to believe it, because then you're not making them feel like they're not strong enough to understand the truth.

Speaker 1:

It makes a lot of sense. I like that. Thank you for sharing that In your work. From what I'm seeing, it feels like you are helping people with breaking down some of those limiting mindsets and people who may not believe in themselves. What have you been seeing in your work and how do you handle that? You seem like you're pretty cool, calm and collected. How do you help people you know deal with these beliefs that kind of are limiting and depleting at the same time? How do you help them? What are you seeing?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think we have to be patient with people as well.

Speaker 2:

It's like we were saying before you know you can see the answer and you're like, I see so much potential. It's like, why do you think you're not good enough? And it'll be an overachiever who's sitting in front of me and says I'm not good enough, I have to go get this qualification and I can't do it, and I feel so silly. And you know that those things are not true, and so it can be quite challenging and it requires holding space for them and then stopping to ask them, you know, is that really true? And allowing them the time to just think about it.

Speaker 2:

It sounds super simple and a very generalized coaching technique, but the truth is, when people don't stop to actually ask themselves is this actually true? Don't stop to actually ask themselves is this actually true? It's because it's all that negative self-talk, and so it's a process, and I get frustrated sometimes because I know that I have to allow them to digest what they're saying to themselves and then to look for the evidence to prove otherwise and then to almost take the time to actually read it, let it sink in and then believe it. And that takes time and you have to just allow for it. But yes, I struggle with that one a lot because I see potential and so I want to tell them. But you're so amazing.

Speaker 1:

No, that's good. I mean, patience is definitely a virtue, especially in this kind of business. So I totally get that. Are you able to share an example of somebody who has been changed from out of that mindset? You don't have to go into anything that's going to break confidentiality, of course, but do you have an example that you can share about somebody who had limiting beliefs when they started with you and they're on the other side of that mountain, if you will?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can sort of generalize the problem and the solution.

Speaker 2:

And with coaching, sometimes it's really after all of the different sessions, when you get the feedback later on, once they start practicing it in life, that you realize that it worked.

Speaker 2:

And I did have a client who is similar to what I was talking about before is giving away that power in certain parts of their life and not realizing that they were doing that and all it required was setting some new boundaries but to have a mindset shift that I am just as important as every other person in my family as an example, and it's okay for me to ask for help and it's also okay to say no.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes, especially when they are sort of the eldest in a family or something like that, and despite the fact they are so successful at their careers, et cetera, other parts of our life, we overcompensate because somewhere else we are either underperforming or we're letting ourselves down. And so we worked on that particular issue and how it's not happening in the work environment but it's happening in the family environment, and we looked at how we could mirror the behaviors and the self-belief and the confidence in the work environment into the family environment and, funny enough, it started to work, enough it started to work and it just, it changed the whole perspective and just the confidence in being able to manage those relationships without losing them, and that was important.

Speaker 1:

Well, that is important. Okay, I only have a few more questions left. These may be the toughest ones. I ask you all day, so I'll give you time to think about each one. One of them you're already aware of. You should be prepared for that one, but the other ones perhaps not.

Speaker 1:

There are three areas that you specialize in. I've been doing a little research on, plus what we talked about in our pre-interview conversation. I just wonder how these three areas let me just ask the question okay, so you deal with helping people, wouldn't we have? You have skills in negotiation, strategic thinking and problem solving. Those are the kind of things that you put on a resume and it looked great. Already got negotiation skills. They got thinking skills. Problem solving skills. Person is ideal for upper management position. I've been here. That's why I get it. I put it on resumes.

Speaker 1:

I won't speak by myself this time. I want to hear from you. How do you manage those skills when it comes to relationships? So many folks have those skills and they try to apply relationships and they fail in the relationship because they're trying to manage. They're trying to use negotiation through maybe perhaps get what they want, or they're trying to overthink situations and rather than kind of feel what's going on in the relationship or they're trying to solve problems that it should be trying to solve. It should be. Just listening. You get what I'm saying. The parallels here tell me how you, how you deal with it, that you are proficient in those areas, but knowing when there may be not a place for me in relationship. If that makes sense, I hope it makes sense.

Speaker 2:

It's all inside my head I think I understand what you're saying. The gist of it is how do you use all of those skills in relationship management? Is that what you're saying In in everyday relationships?

Speaker 1:

In the right ways, because you can do it in ways that will be detrimental to a relationship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so in other words, how do you use it without it being detrimental?

Speaker 2:

Correct Absolutely yeah, so negotiation skills, problem solving all of those skills, techniques, strategies in life, right Relationship management. And people, whether it's your personal relationships, your work relationships or someone you're going to deal with in a store. Those are human beings. They have emotions, and this might not be new news, but people buy with emotion, even in corporates, even in business. And so if we understand how people work and if we use the skills that we have which you know, sometimes it's going to be patience, sometimes it's going to be empathy, sometimes it's going to be just being the person who's listening really carefully, watching the body language, to decide how to use any one of those skills and any of those strategies you need to be able to get to the objective. So if I'm negotiating, I'm going to buy something in a store, if I want to negotiate with the person the price of it, I was like oh, how much is that?

Speaker 2:

And they'll tell me, and I'll be like oh, but last week when I came in, they gave me an X number discount because you know I'm a regular customer and all of that. Is that not still applicable? And you know, you'll do it with a smile and you'll ask, as if you're just sort of checking, rather than being demanding and saying, oh, you know I'm a regular customer, why wouldn't you give me my discount? Don't you know who I am? See, very, two different ways, right. So when you walk around with the ego, it doesn't quite service as well as if we walk around with the oh, empathy and I'm finding out, it would be really lovely if you did that. I'm not going to punish you if you didn't, but it would be really nice. Chances are you'll probably get your discount. The same happens with personal relationships, right, and often romantic relationships or family relationships. We tend to be more biased in one way or the other.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes we're going to let people get away with things right, or sometimes we have to negotiate because they're like oh well, we watched that movie last week and that was the one you chose, so isn't it my turn this week? Right? So it's things like that. So those types of skills, those strategies, can definitely help you, but you've got to do it in a way that reads the person that you're speaking with, that reads the room, the energy, the body language, the vibe. But at the same time, we have to know ourselves right, because there are times where you're going to have a trigger, and if that person's going to trigger you, it's definitely not going to go the way you want it to go. So you've got to know your triggers too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. All right, this is our penultimate question for today. As a coach and I learned this recently, which is something I should have known for all the years I've been coaching I have not I'm a little bit ashamed, but I didn't know this that coaches actually need coaches. It never crossed my mind, I feel like we were just helping people and nobody was helping us, because that's the situation that I was in personally. I was coaching people that didn't have anybody coaching me. What do you need personally from a coach? Yourself as being a coach?

Speaker 2:

Right First, no shame in that. We learn new things every day, and the only reason why I knew coaches need coaches is because of my own coaching school and how supportive they were. But I always feel like we can learn from each other, so it was a no-brainer for me to think that coaches need coaches, and what I need at the moment, and what I'm using a coach for, is business To go out on my own and to be an entrepreneur and understand how business works, I realized that it's going to be a steeper learning curve than when I was in a corporate surrounded by lots of support structure and unlimited resources.

Speaker 2:

So I'm using a coach for business.

Speaker 1:

No, that makes total sense. Thank you for clarifying that for me. Before I ask the last question, I want you to make sure you're ready to kind of take the last two minutes of our show to speak to the people, whether they be female entrepreneurs or just listeners in general, how you want to encourage them in moving forward, breaking through barriers and limiting mindsets and transitions and such, and then let people know where they can find your work, where they can find you on social media. But the last question for today, before you get there, last question for today is our CMV question. We talked about it in advance so you'd be ready to kind of give us some thought.

Speaker 1:

Career mission and vocation question Not to diminish the incredible work you've done. If you've done plenty, you served a lot of people. But theoretically and temporarily, I'm wiping the slate clean of all the work you've done, from hobbies to career mission, vocation what do you think on september 17th in 2025, what is veruska doing with her life right now? You think you can't use what you've already done now. So you got to think Sure, what do you think you're doing right now?

Speaker 2:

If you wipe the slate clean and if I had the knowledge to do whatever I want to do. Yes, be an entrepreneur, be a very powerful, successful businesswoman in multiple streams it's something I've always been curious about. It's something that challenges me. It's the newest challenge that I have. I see the power and the influence and the value in it, and then you can reach more people with what you can do, and so it would give me more freedom to do the things I want to do.

Speaker 1:

I love that. More freedom than you're seeing right now, yes, wow, I love that. All right, after we get off, after we close the show out, don't leave. I got to share something with quick, but here's your floor, last two minutes of the show. You can encourage people however you want to. Also let them know where they can find you and your work. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Sure, everything is within your power and the power is within you, and that's a saying by Janice Trackman, and I truly believe that. I started empowerment coaching and executive coaching specifically because of the environments that I was in and because of my own experiences. But I see the potential that women have and what's holding them back, and whilst we can share easy steps and methods, et cetera, to overcoming these challenges, we all need help to be able to overcome them.

Speaker 2:

And it's not an overnight success. It takes time, but do it with intention and believe in yourself because you can do it. And whether you do it with a coach, whether you do it with a mentor, whether you do it with a friend, these things that you do for yourself, no one can take away from you. It's invaluable and once you learn it, you'll never lose it, and it comes from the inside out. You'll never need the external validation to be able to do those things for yourself ever again. So I highly encourage you to continue to empower yourself and do whatever you're doing to achieve that, and you can find me on LinkedIn, and my name is on the screen, or you can find me on my website, which is wwwvarushkanegesacom. Thank you very much, varushka. It's been a fantastic conversation.

Speaker 1:

Hang on. I have to be closed out for a little bit, but if you're watching and you're listening, this episode is live. So it's on all the social media platforms except for Instagram we take care of that one on the back end and in less than an hour we'll be on all of those things platforms Apple Podcasts, spotify, iheartradio, pandora, et cetera. We'll be out there. But thank you, Fariska, for your time in doing this today. It's been a pleasure. It gives me the opportunity to know you better, hear more of your story. Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 2:

Likewise. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

My pleasure. Thank you, hold on.

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