Dustin "D.L." Largusa: From Behind Bars to Behind the Mic

What happens when a former inmate transforms his darkest experiences into a beacon of hope for others? Dustin Largusa's remarkable journey from prison to purpose reveals the unexpected power of embracing humility over pride.

Dustin candidly shares how his "borrowed faith" eventually led him to prison, where he experienced a profound spiritual awakening that changed everything. The fascinating origin story behind his podcast name, "The Low Life Show" reflects his discovery that being "low" isn't about shame but about adopting the humble posture Jesus described as "low and meek." This reframing of his identity has become the cornerstone of his mission to help others.

The conversation takes a powerful turn as Dustin discusses the harsh realities facing formerly incarcerated individuals. Despite having marketable skills and qualifications, the constant rejection from employers creates nearly insurmountable barriers to reintegration. This systematic exclusion makes returning to crime an unfortunately easy choice for many, perpetuating cycles of recidivism. Dustin's firsthand experience with these challenges fuels his passionate advocacy work with Prison Fellowship and other organizations.

Perhaps most inspiring is how Dustin's podcast has organically found its way into over 500 correctional facilities nationwide. Without deliberately planning this distribution, divine timing connected him with a distributor who waived all publishing fees, allowing his message of restoration to reach those who need it most. His episode on "The Way God Restores" has resonated deeply with thousands of listeners behind bars, offering hope that what was lost can be redeemed.

Dustin leaves us with a countercultural challenge: "The world would have us be proud and flex and look what I got. I would challenge you today to choose humility over pride and just see what happens." His journey stands as powerful evidence tha

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Chapters

• 0:00 Meeting Dustin Lagusa
• 3:54 The Journey to "The Low Life"
• 8:22 Fighting Recidivism and Personal Challenges
• 13:10 Supporting Returning Citizens
• 21:34 The Podcast Journey
• 27:46 Finding Your Voice and Purpose

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:36

Welcome back to one on one with Mr you. Of course I'm your host, mr you, in the studio with us. The justice ambassador for the Prison, fellowship leadership, mentor with U-Version, a prayer leader, the author and the powerful voice of the Low Life Show, dustin Lagusa's in the house. Man DL, what's up, fam?

Speaker 2: 0:55

What's going on, brother? I appreciate you having me on here, man, it's a pleasure.

Speaker 1: 0:59

The pleasure's mine, man. It's always a to have this man. We've been fast friends, man. We do a lot of things together, a lot of collabs and stuff. This is a great pleasure to have you on here, man. It's different to what I'm comfortable with, but let's do this man. So customers always ask our guests to come in talk about their childhood, their upbringing, kind of what got you from there to where you are right now. As brief as you can, kind of share that story with us.

Speaker 2: 1:23

I would say I'm the typical story man of borrowed faith. You know, I had a grandfather who was a minister, kind of followed in his footsteps, just in mimicking what he did but not knowing really anything about God, just knowing of him. Right, fast, story went the way of the world. Man went the way of the world because walking that walk is hard to do, you know, it's not comfortable. And walking that walk is hard to do, it's not comfortable, it's way more fun to do the world stuff. At least the flesh will tell you that Went the way of the world Took me going to prison to now committedly walk the way that I walk.

Speaker 1: 1:59

All right, man, I noticed more to the story. We're going to try to expect what we can with the time that we have, but tell me how you came up with the name for the podcast. I know the story, but our viewers and listeners have no idea. They hear the low life show like, okay, this is a podcast I want to listen to. So we're going to break down what we got the name from and, on top of that, what you've been seeing since you've been starting this podcast journey. Man, let's get into it.

Speaker 2: 2:24

Yeah, man, it's a, it was all God. I'm going to say that, first and foremost, let me frame it with the big old God box. Right Before I started walking like this actually the pivotal moment when I started walking with God, I had never been on my knees in my life like not once, not even to scrub the floor, life Like not once, not even to scrub the floor and that changed me, right, it was on my knees in prayer and he, just like every layer of disappointment in my life, every hurt, every trauma, all the things that we tend to hang on to as people, he got rid of. It left me with peace instead, and in that, from that moment, like, I started, you know, reading the Bible, getting to know him even better, and what I found was just tons of scripture Jesus talking about being low, right, learn from me, I'm low and I'm meek, I'm gentle. He took up the low position of a servant, right. So those things happened.

Speaker 2: 3:17

And then I remember sitting there as God was calling me to do this podcasting man, I was like God, I'm like, I'm just a man of unclean lips, right, I'm a scumbag, I'm a dirtbag, I'm a lowlife, and when that came to me, it was like he was like yes, you are, but now you're living one, now you're in prayer. You are low at my feet, right, you've been humbled. So yeah, I mean, I just strung those two things together, man, but it was God. Like I would have never. I don't know. I don't even like calling myself a dirtbag anymore. It's just, it's strange to me. I used to enjoy it, you know, but now it's like no, I'm not, I'm not man, I'm his.

Speaker 1: 3:54

Oh, I love that man, I love that. Yeah, I won't let you talk about yourself like for that to be the case, but, man, you're a rare brother. I hope that during this short time we have, people can see and hear that. Those on listening platforms, those that are watching us live right now I hope they can see that you're a rare brother, man. The things that you're talking about doing for people. It's like you don't hear that very often. You've been in this fight against recidivism and what would you say it's been the biggest challenge so far in doing that man and kind of what kind of I don't know. You spent some time inside, but tell me how those things kind of came together to be put you on the journey that you're on right now to help people who are coming out and trying to ruin the society um, you know, as I've continued to have the sustainable peace I, you know, I'm still in touch with some of my friends in my former life and I see and hear the angst in their voices.

Speaker 2: 4:53

I could see it on their faces some of the things they post on social, you know, and I'm like I was that. But but I have this peace now, right, and I think about it, made me think about my whole journey, from getting out of prison, reentering society and all the challenges that I had, and I figured you know what man I want to be, the. The answer to the prayer that I didn't know I was praying Because I wasn't a prayerful person at the time, right. But when I got out, I immediately was faced with all these walls and all these struggles, and I see it on people that I still consider dear to me, right. So why wouldn't I want to, you know, make an effort, right? Just because I don't know the other people that are in there and coming home, like they're still coming home. Those challenges are still going to exist, right, and there's still people who don't need to go through all of that. So, you know, I just had this burning, burning desire to want to join that fight man.

Speaker 2: 5:51

The challenge, I think has been seeing myself as qualified for that. Well, you know I'm. I'm not. I'm not a politician, I'm not somebody that has millions of dollars or any of these resources at my hands. You know, and so it's. I battle that. Like okay, are you, is your voice enough to help make a change so that the next person doesn't have to go through this? Is your voice enough? You know, and I think that's probably the biggest struggle, luckily, you know, we, I serve a gracious God. He reminds me all the time, like this is what you were called for, this is what I have you here for. Like you, are you're, you're, you're enough for this because this is your assignment. So it's, it's a daily thing, but we managed to overcome through by the grace of God.

Speaker 1: 6:42

I love it. I love it. I know a lot of times people come on our show especially on this show where we hear compelling stories from around the world, and I usually kind of just expect them to come and pour out to our listeners and our viewers. But today I'm going to do something a little bit different. I want to pour into you, man, and let you know how important you are to me personally. I can't speak for all the people who I don't know the names and faces. I know a couple of folks who love you dearly, like I do, and your name is always in their mouth and it's always in a positive way. But you have been a huge contributor to our Men's Roundtable Series podcast and I want to take that lightly. You were handpicked, I feel, led to bring you into that and I really feel like you have something to offer. So I get that.

Speaker 1: 7:28

Your Daily challenge is A self esteem, seeing your value In the big picture. You got value Because of where you came from and what you were doing. That does not negate the fact that you have value. The Bible says that we are treasures in earthen vessels. That means those vessels are fallible, they're breakable, they're weak by nature. They deteriorate with time, but we are treasure in God's eyes. I want you to know that, man.

Speaker 1: 7:58

When I call you for the MRTS podcast, we have a broadcast coming up, it's because I see value in you, brother. I know that when you open your mouth, you got something sincere and authentic to say and people catch it, they resonate with it. I heard the feedback after our broadcast and you were always somebody that was mentioned as I resonated with that guy, I resonated with DL, I resonated with that mindset that he had. So I need you to understand that, even even in that same vein, even in that same vein, I want to ask you how do you feel that you've been impacted and growing as a man, not just because of our project, but just because of the interactions, the opportunity to speak to the issues that we talk about as men that, honestly, nobody else really understands.

Speaker 2: 8:43

how do you feel like you've been impacted personally and how do you feel like you're growing as a man because of that I think it's allowed me to, to understand that some things are normal, that we as men tend to suffer in silence and we don't have to. You know, obviously it doesn't mean we go around and spill the beans to everybody, but you know, there's, there's wisdom in it. But I think that's the biggest thing, because I've always, I've always kind of, you know, put a put on a stone face. You know, man up, toughen up, like you, don't have problems. You know problems are for other people, not for you. You know and and, and. So I would lie to myself. So I would lie to myself and say it was okay, even if it wasn't. So I think, through those, through the joining you guys at the round tables, hearing other people's perspectives, their experiences, it's given me, I guess, license to, to be okay with not being okay, you know, and to and to find my way through it without keeping it to myself.

Speaker 1: 9:52

I like that. This probably is the easiest question I'm going to ask you. It's probably a softball question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. You had something that we kind of shared background-wise. You had plenty of reasons to kind of do your own thing, plenty of reasons to kind of mind your own business, not get involved. I'm sure there's some situation that happened in your life. You're like you know what? Because I put my nose in that or I tried to help or I did that. This is what got me into some of the stuff I'm into. I know that because I've experienced it. I know you can relate to this no-transcript options. You got free will, you got choice. You don't have to do what you're doing right now. Why is this something that you just can't shake? You can't get away from this? Why do you feel like this is? Why is this pool here, when you could be doing so many different things in so many different areas? You're a smart, intelligent guy. You can do all kinds of stuff. Why are you going to do this?

Speaker 2: 10:51

again. God man, he made it impossible for me to do anything else. Everything that I've walked into I found searching for a job online. You know it's hard for felons to get jobs right. So like with you version man looking for a job online. You know it's hard for felons to get jobs right. So like with YouVersion man looking for a job, all of a sudden here, volunteer for YouVersion looking for a job. Here's all this podcasting stuff. None of it's paying the bills looking for a job. And here comes prison, fellowship right.

Speaker 2: 11:15

And meanwhile I'd have people in my congregation, in my circles and stuff, telling me like you know what you would be good for, like prison stuff, you know. And to me it's like nah, like I'm not going back there, like I'm good, you know what I mean Like you can go in there, but I'm good. But as the road just kind of cleared away, like God made it impossible for me to shake it. And he's shown me you know he doesn't waste a minute right, all of those years that I thought were lost. Now they're being redeemed because they can help somebody else. You know, maybe I don't get all the glitz and glam that I once thought I was going to get in those years that I lost. But I'll tell you what it's way more fulfilling. It went from being like resistant to God to like OK, what are we doing next? God, like I bet you, you're going to do this. It's exciting, it's a journey.

Speaker 1: 12:06

Absolutely, I get. Get that and your podcast is being streamed in over 500 correctional facilities. Man, people have to get a chance to hear your story. That's if you want exposure, that's it and no pun intended here. But you got a captive audience. Dude people are, they got access to you and they can see and hear your story and it don't get no better than that. You got your stories going exactly to where you want it to go. That's something that with sometimes with podcasts, you can't control. You can't control where your, where your voice goes and where your show goes, but in this case it's going exactly where it's supposed to be going. How's that feel?

Speaker 2: 12:41

man, it's great man. Again, I, I'm just in awe of the god that I serve, man like even that where it's at. I had no plan for it to go into prisons, I was just podcasting because I felt called to it and then all of a sudden I'm in a meeting with the distributor, you know, and I say, ok, god, if this is you, if this is you, if this is what you want, if this is not me trying to, you know, be OK, let me speak to my people, like, if this is you, make this easy, because I'm not making money, right, I don't make, I don't make a dime. I'm still looking for these jobs, but you keep leading me these other places and I'll tell you what in the first minute, they waived all my publishing fees, like it does. It literally doesn't get better than that.

Speaker 2: 13:21

All the things that I was concerned about wiped away in a minute. You know, and I was worried for four weeks, you know, months, that for that meeting, I was worried for the entire, probably 48 hours leading up to it, like asking people for prayer and then doing all these things Right and and uh, it's amazing, man. It's amazing because I know that there's at least one person, right, at least one person. I mean, we don't we get caught up in metrics sometimes, I don't. At least there's at least one person in one facility in this nation whose life can be affected in a positive way because of it.

Speaker 1: 13:57

Oh yeah, we had that conversation before, without question. Are there any testimonials that you can share about how the podcast has reached into these facilities and have changed some lives? Do you have any testimony that you can share with us?

Speaker 2: 14:10

Nothing that I can share, no, but let's just say we're going to go with numbers, just because it reflects something, right, there are specific episodes, one very specific one Restoration, the Way that God Restores. That's got thousands of downloads. I know that lives are impacted in that way. Right, you go and lose're. You go and lose time. You, you know you want the time that the locust ate. You want it back, right, so that's that's the scripture that I lean on in that one, right there, and I and I break it down for people to let them know like he's he can restore things that were even eaten away, right, so I don't know. I smile when I think about the people that are listening to that and the hope that they get from it, right, because they know that it's faithful.

Speaker 1: 14:55

Oh yeah, I love that man. That's real good man. This question is not from a coach. It may sound like it, but it's not. This is from a friend today. What does your support system look like right now Because of what you're doing? You're doing a lot of pouring out into the lives of other people. Where you're getting your pouring in from, what your support system looks like, and if this is something that's not designed to embarrass you, if your support system is not where you want it to be, you can just say that and we can keep right on stepping, but I want to make sure you're good. This is the question I want to know about as a friend.

Speaker 2: 15:34

For sure. Well, along the same vein as the restoration story, man, you know I was divorced and all of that stuff, Right, God saw fit to send me a helper. So I've got this lovely lady that is always supportive of me 24 seven, even when I'm not the nicest person to her. You know my brother, he's also my pastor, so I'm shepherded and I'm brothered.

Speaker 2: 15:56

Yeah, and my church community is phenomenal, man, like when you feel like an outcast, right to be rallied around every step of the way, like I'm sitting here still shaking off my dirt and these guys are like come here, you know, it's a beautiful thing. Then I got you, you know, and a handful of other folks that I've met along this way.

Speaker 1: 16:19

You know, you know what.

Speaker 2: 16:20

I mean. So my support system is very much there and when, when they're not, in the moments when I'm by myself, I get it from the source. I get it from the source, man, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 1: 16:39

If you were speaking to somebody that's watching or listening today, that doesn't get the whole recidivism situation. They don't get somebody who has been incarcerated and the challenge that they have to go back out into society and try to make a life for themselves and their family. Tell everybody that's watching what you think the number one challenge is for them returning back to society. What's the number one challenge?

Speaker 1: 17:08

And put aside what people think about them and the perception, because it's challenging for them but it may not be sufficient on their challenge. What's their biggest challenge?

Speaker 2: 17:22

Man, it's got to be learning to endure and persevere. Man, I know for myself, when I left, I was not prepared for every single employer and I'm talking thousands of applications man to tell me, no, I was not prepared for every single employer. And I'm talking thousands of applications, man to tell me, no, I was not prepared for that. I was not prepared to be basically rejected by the entire world, you know, and not have people understand. You know, I mean, I'm over here with, like you, you said it, I'm not me, right, I've got a level of intellect, I've got a resume that speaks pretty well of what I can do, but then I got this piece of paper that says I'm a felon and that disqualifies me from all the things that I'm probably overqualified for.

Speaker 2: 18:06

So I would say that, man, the, the preparation to endure and push past all of the no's, to endure and push past all of the no's, it makes it almost like a sure thing for people to go back to crime. I mean, it's easy, right, it's easy to hit a lick If somebody tells you no, it's illegal anyways, right. But you go to apply for a job, you want to do things the right way and everywhere you turn it's like Nope, sorry, no, I mean I've had a person who I did. I went through training and they got my background check back and I thought they had already seen it go through training, trainings done. I'm about to start my first day live and he calls me and he says we just got your background check back, we can't hire you, and I'm like I just worked with you guys for two weeks, but but it's that, it's. It's that man, the the feeling of not being wanted is is, you know, especially when you're trying to do right.

Speaker 1: 19:04

It's, it's terrible, it's heartbreaking man and I feel like this is I don't know if, if you're dealing with this in the, this in your ministry, but it's just something that you guys are, or if you are, or if you desire to start kind of, I guess, ministering to that need, is that something that's kind of on your heart? You've been doing that, thinking about doing it.

Speaker 2: 19:26

Yeah, that's coming, man, that's coming. I attribute everything to my church, community and prayer. If I hadn't have found, honestly, if my brother wasn't a pastor, I wouldn't have trusted a pastor enough to join their church. But I know where he comes from, I know I could trust him right, and that's God. Again, he knew that, god knew that, and if it wasn't for that, though, I would have been back two feet in the street. Man, I can guarantee you that. So yeah, absolutely that's coming. I've been talking with the guys at Prison Fellowship on their reentry. They're trying to establish a model that would help kind of foster and shepherd people towards the community that they belong in, rather than having them do what I did, what probably a lot of people do man, play ping pong until you find the place or until you don't.

Speaker 1: 20:16

Wow, I think we're gonna spend the rest of the show kind of talking more about your podcast journey and, of course, at the end I want you to share how people can find you, find the work that you're doing, how they can support what you're doing, because it's not just a podcast to get licensed stuff, but you're doing something powerful and I want people to hear about it. I'm doing my part, for sure. Let's talk about the podcast journey. Tell me what's the most enjoyable part of your podcast journey so far.

Speaker 2: 20:53

I mean, I get to meet people like you, brother, honestly, like honestly. I've met so many incredible people, man, like so many incredible testimonies, and then to know that Revelations 12 tells us by the power of the testimony and the blood of the lamb that's how we overcome the enemy. And so to be a part part of that, to be a part of getting the testimony out of people to to sharing with other people, like it's, it's amazing. I'm like the devil don't stand a chance. But above and beyond that is, is the feedback that I get, you know, like a I guess these are conversations that a lot of people aren't having.

Speaker 2: 21:26

You know, um, people aren't having, you know, um, pride came before the fall. Pride is the enemy, like, hands down, without a shadow of a doubt, and the conversation is not being had, you know, because, whatever reason. So I think that's the other thing is the, the excitement, the awe and wonder, because it's a journey, it's almost uncharted territory, um, so I kind of get to make my way as I go. That part of it's cool. But the beauty of it is that I haven't heard anything terrible, you know, I haven't heard anybody say, you know, it's not like I'm attacking people for who they are. It's literally just the pride and we all have it Like it's not, like there's any one person that doesn't have even like the tiniest bit of pride. So you know, we just keep, we just fight it every day. We just fight it every day.

Speaker 1: 22:15

I love it. I love it. I know you're using some strategies to kind of market what you're doing and I think anybody that strives to have a podcast as a business ought to do that. So I want to ask you a two part question right now. First part do you value podcasting as a business? Ought to do that. So I want to ask you a two-part question right now. First part do you value podcasting as a business and why? And the second question is can you share some of the marketing strategies you've been using?

Speaker 2: 23:28

that's been helping you be successful with your show man. This is going to be probably a rebellious answer, considering the question.

Speaker 2: 23:40

I don't value it as a business only because, only because of the heart behind what I'm doing, I would feel and it could be wrong for this, but I would feel kind of Bad I guess, if I profited off of helping someone better their lives in that way, when it's simple and it then it the Bible's free. You know, all I'm doing is taking revelation, putting it in my words for people to understand, people that hopefully understand, like me, that are listening to it. So in that way, no, I do value it as a business in. You take my mission out of it. Right, I do value it as a business period because it does provide whatever the consumer is looking for. Right, it does provide those things. So you know, supply and demand, right, it has to be.

Speaker 2: 24:31

For me, marketing has been word of mouth mostly. Marketing has been word of mouth mostly. Honestly, I don't know if anybody that are in the facilities, if they're talking to people and that's happening, but I do that, I'm doing interviews like I did with yours. Really, that's just marketing for the other stuff. It's testimony, it markets. God points people to Jesus, but it's really marketing for the solo teaching. You know, like it's testimony at market. Scott points people to jesus. But it's really marketing for the, the solo teaching episodes that I'm doing to attack pride, um, so people get the, get it out there, um, and then I do like little, little design things. So I've got apparel coming, uh, things like that, oh that's gonna be exciting.

Speaker 2: 25:12

Oh, come on now yeah, actually behind me, behind me I got a little a little something there, rebranding, uh, rebranding the logo a little bit, um, doing some things, just kind of getting it, getting it more, you know, individualized. But I think, at the end of the day, the greatest marketing tactic that I use is not being concerned with the numbers. I I find that that takes all the pressure off of me, it allows my work to stay quality, where I'm not stressed out, trying to force things to happen, and I just naturally, you know, naturally see it go. And above and beyond that, you already know my answer to this man I pray, I pray, I say God be honored, let this touch the people that it needs to touch. And I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that, whatever those numbers are, behind the scenes, the analytics.

Speaker 1: 26:08

That's the exact number that he's looking for right now, in that moment, and in our little circle, that's how we roll. That's how we probably would answer that question if we asked all of us. We know that some bills are going to be paid and stuff like that, so you've got to take care of that part. But I totally get you, man. Someone was watching right now and they were thinking about starting a podcast. They got a story that is impactful and influential enough that people's lives can be changed. Why would you suggest for someone to start their own podcast, man?

Speaker 2: 26:37

because you've got a voice. Because you've got a voice, you've got a story. You've walked in shoes that nobody else has walked in. You have a perspective, man, that can help the next person. I think there's value in that all day long. All day long, if I can avoid a pitfall because you had a podcast and I heard it and I was like, hey man, mr you, I listened to that last episode and I didn't trip over my feet Like that's amazing. That's amazing, you know. But yeah, man, like you have a, you have a voice. For a reason it's not to keep quiet. You know the enemy might try to tell you that, but it's not to keep quiet. These things need to be told, you know. These things need to be shared. There's somebody out there that is looking for the specific thing that you have on your heart to speak, and they might not get it if you don't speak it. So that's the reason.

Speaker 1: 27:33

No, you know it, man, I love this. All right, this is gonna be our final question for the episode and if you watch any of our shows, you know how we get down with this one. It's called a CMV question. It's not to diminish anything you've done in life. You gotta be everything you've been. You don't. You've done this value, a experience has been valuable and it's been life-changing for you and others. Force, but temporarily, I would remove everything off of the table that you've done professionally in ministry and everything. What do you think DL is doing with his life right now? If all those things are put out of the equation, what do you think he's doing? It could be a career, it could be a mission in life. It could be a place that you work and serve. What do you think you're doing?

Speaker 2: 28:14

Writing, writing, you work and serve. What do you think you're doing Writing? Writing some form of artistry, man, probably writing, uh, maybe a book you? Know, or or graphic designs, man, I I've been, I've loved art since I was a kid. Um, I'm getting kind of decent with the, with the digital versions of it, you know. But once upon a time you give me a pencil, me a pencil, and I'm sketching you a portrait right now. So I would probably be doing that, if not. Video games. Man vegged out.

Speaker 1: 28:45

Hands down.

Speaker 2: 28:47

I haven't played one in a long time, but I'm thinking, okay, if I take all of the things off the table, I would have time for video games off the table, I would have time for video games.

Speaker 1: 28:58

Oh, my goodness, had to leave that world behind me, man. Since Atari and ColecoVision, I didn't go back to that world. Man, I don't even know what Sega is, man, I was long gone by then. But, man, it's been a fantastic conversation, man. Thank you, brother, for coming in here and sharing your story, man, and just being so transparent and so humble man been a pleasure, man.

Speaker 2: 29:17

Man, I appreciate you. Thank you for having me. It's been a joy. I'm like man.

Speaker 1: 29:21

I get to go one-on-one with mr you come on, cut it out, let's go, let's get it on, baby, all right? Yeah, before we get here, man, I want to give you the last two minutes of our show. Man, you get a chance to do two things, kind of let people know where they can find you and your work, whatever causes you want to put out there. Let let people know where they can find you and your work, whatever causes you want to put out there. Let people find out where they can get those or information on that, and then you can give a shout out to the people. Whatever you want to say to the watchers and listeners today, go for it.

Speaker 2: 29:45

Yeah, man, you can find me at really simple livingthelowlifecom, because that's, at the end of the day, that's the mission. It's to live low. It's. If I can help some of you guys along the way, that's great, but I know that I'm supposed to do it period. So, livingthelowlifecom man, you can find me on Instagram, d-a-l, underscore the low life and then the low life show, living the Low Life IG. You can find me on YouTube at the low life show. You're going to see a couple of different ones there. I'm not the lowrider cars You'll see. And for you out there, man, listen, the world tells us we're supposed to be a certain way, but the Bible tells us when we conform to the world, it makes God our enemy. The world would have us be proud and flex and look what I got. I would challenge you today to be countercultural, to choose humility over pride and just see what happens. Just see what happens. I'm not going to spoil it for you because the journey is amazing, but I do know how the story ends.

Speaker 1: 30:55

Thank you, brother. This has been fantastic stuff, man. I really appreciate it, bro. So if you guys are watching us live, it's going to be on all of the social media platforms with a couple of exceptions. We'll get about there throughout the course of today, but in about an hour or so this episode will be on all the listening platforms. So if you're not a watcher but you're an avid listener, thank you for doing what you're doing. Give us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts, please. We definitely appreciate that and you have this episode there, hopefully within the next hour or so. But thanks, dl, for being on here, man, and sharing your story. We hope that lives are changed. Looking for some positive feedback coming back from our listeners and watchers, man, thank you. Thanks for all you guys that are watching and listening.